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Planning Representation for application:
 
NUMBER 07/03028/1 [New application subsequent to 07/02053/1 (our ref 006)]
TITLE Former Convent Of Providence, Limekiln Lane, Baldock, SG7 6PG
PROPOSAL Redevelopment of former convent site with 65 residential units comprising 16 x 1 bed and 29 x 2 bed flats; 4 x 2 bed; 2 x 3 bed and 14 x 4 bed houses. Associated landscaping, access and parking following demolition of existing convent buildings.
REGISTERED 11 January 2008
APPLIC STATUS Refused - appeal dismissed [status when checked on 17 August 2008]
BSOC STATUS 012: Closed

 
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CORRESPONDENCE 3
FROM NHDC Planning Department
TO The Baldock Society
DATE SENT/RECEIVED 28 May 2008

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CORRESPONDENCE 2
FROM NHDC Planning Department
TO The Baldock Society
DATE SENT/RECEIVED 13 May 2008

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CORRESPONDENCE 1
FROM The Baldock Society
TO NHDC Planning Department
DATE SENT/RECEIVED 11 February 2008 by email

DETAIL

We have review the latest proposals at our last committee meeting and the members have requested I make the following points to your panel. Most of our previous comment still seem apply and have been restated/reworded here for your convenience.

1. We note the changes between the two sets of proposals but do not se where the suggestions made have been taken into account. We note the roof line change along South road from the South Lodge Mews site to Limekiln Lane, this is an improvement and attempts to give some "flow" to the roof lines, but it is still too dominant in the street scene. The 1.8 metre wall along South Road is of some concern as it will be quite an extension of the existing wall. We are not sure how this will change the street scene, especially as there are many other such walls in the town which do seem to work quite well. If it is to be considered, it should be constructed from reclaimed bricks of the right type and with the right topping, to "blend" with the age and design of the wall at South Lodge Mews. A "new" brick wall will look very odd for many years. The strange change in pavement depth at the junction of this site and the South Lodge Mews site should be eliminated as it looks ridiculous on the plans and gives no flow to the line of walls. It would be a good place for muggers" to hide and then escape through the new development.

2. The elevations facing South Road and Limekiln Lane should be restricted in height (no more than 2.5 storey) to ensure they blend in with the surrounding existing buildings. The stepped roofscape ideas should be retained to prevent a "block" elevation. The proposed heights will tend to be dominant and impair the visual aspects of this area and not be in keeping with the residential architecture of the area.

2. The use of various render colours has been reduced and the elevations are more suitable, apart from the height. The elevations facing South Road and Limekiln Lane are the most sensitive and the selection of materials and finishes are of paramount importance. This is an area of gradual development, ranging mainly from Victorian times with a vast variety of styles and materials. This development should endeavour to harmonise the area and not stand out as a new development. The proposals have gone a long way to introduce many types of finishes and design ideas but looks to be trying too hard resulting in an overdesigned appearance. However, you are more experienced at the interpretation of the plans and elevations so we will leave this to you to decide upon.

3. Parking still seems inadequate throughout the site for the number of dwellings being proposed. If the height restriction is implemented, this will reduce the number of dwellings and restore the balance to an extent, but not enough. While we acknowledge that government policy may be met, the reality is that this level of development will generate a significant number of vehicles and these will be displaced around the surrounding area add to the general parking problems that exist within the town already. This is particularly relevant to visitor parking. You only need to walk around the area at weekends to see the problems that already exist.

4. Plots 1 - 8 are still too near the pavement and will change the visual aspect of the street scene to detrimental effect. These units should be pushed further back into the site to keep the aspect of the street wide open. The same comment applies to plots 9 - 14. The existing building lines are a good guide to what would be acceptable.

5. The emergency services should be consulted over the access from the Limekiln Lane entrance to the site and to general access around the site. If cars are parked on the streets within the site, not on the parking spaces, severe restrictions in the width of the roads will occur which could impede emergency access for fire tenders and ambulances. The site entrance has now moved nearer to South Road and there must be concern over the safety aspect of this. There are large volumes of vehicular movements at the junction already and this will add a significant number of vehicles into the area and in particular in the morning rush hour. There are many pupils going to the school and they need to cross both South Road and Limekiln Lane, now there is the added crossing into this development. You will no doubt be taking expert advice on this change.

6. There are no units suitable for "accessibility" requirements and this should be an opportunity to provide some units. Recently the North Herts Homes were going to provide two bungalows at the junction of Norton Road and West Avenue and as some of these units are for "social" housing, can some be designed to be suitable for accessibility tenants?

7. The views of the local residence should be given the highest level of consideration in the application and in particular any local residence who are "overlooked" by these proposals.

8. Tree preservation order should be kept (or put in place) for the existing Copper Beech as the future tenants may want it removed and this should be resisted.

9. No doubt, your department will assess the implications that this increase in residence will have on the amenities and services in Baldock, in particular schools, doctors and dentists.

10. A full Archaeological excavation should be carried out due to the extensive richness of Baldock's past, prior to any construction work being undertaken.

11. Please consult with the Police over the security aspects of the development to ensure it is designed to best practice for crime prevention.

Thank you for forwarding a set of documents to us and thank you for considering our views.

Kind regards,

Chairman
Baldock Society
 

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